Q: How did you get your start as a therapist?
In 1985 I was ordained as a Lutheran pastor and began took a full time position as an associate minister in a church in Houston. Pastoral counseling and therapy had already been a big part of my background and so it was natural that I used that training in my work with people at the church. My work with my supervisor led to my enrolling in a doctor of ministry program in counseling. In 1992 I was licensed as a professional counselor in Texas and a year later as a Marriage and Family Therapist as well.
Q: With so many different fields in therapy, why did you pick marital therapy to be your specialty?
That evolved over time. While working with people over the years I began to notice that most of the people who came for help were really struggling with their relationships, mostly their marriages. When people came for help with depressed mood or anxious feelings it seemed to me that most of the time they were stressed over things that weren’t going well at home. So often it seemed that their problems with their kids, or their problems with money were at least in part due to feeling that they couldn’t work as a team with their spouses. Unfortunately when couples did come to me for marriage counseling, it seemed that the theories and techniques I used to try to help them left a lot to be desired.
Q: Having used the Gottman Method, what makes it different from other marital therapy systems?
I began to read John Gottman’s writings and research in 1995. I have always been drawn to the scientific method of observation and experimentation. As I started learning about Dr. Gottman’s research it was clear that his approach was very different because it was based on a good scientific approach. Most of what I had done with couples before had been based on theories and philosophies which sometimes were helpful to people and sometimes not. We now understand that successful couples operated well in three main areas: they have a strong friendship base, they manage their conflicts fairly well and they are building a shared meaningful life together. Gottman therapy and interventions are designed to help couples improve their relationship in all three of these areas.
Q: In your experiences, has the Gottman method proved useful in most cases?
I sometimes compare the Gottman method therapy I now offer with physical therapy. When a person sees a physical therapist to rehab and injury they don’t just talk about the problem but they actually do exercises to improve things. After learning the exercises with the physical therapist, they are sent home to continue the exercises to strengthen the injury. I think Gottman method therapy is very similar to that. We have specific discussions and exercises to help strengthen friendship or improve conflict management skills or enhance their shared meaning and then the couple is encouraged to continue those discussions at home. I think most couples benefit greatly from this approach and find the fact that they are actually doing something to make things better very encouraging.
Q: You offer both therapy sessions and the “Art & Science of Love” workshops. What is the major advantage of each of these services?
The Art and Science of Love© workshop is a two day, 16 hour experience where couples listen to presentations and then work with their partners on exercises designed to strengthen their relationships. This provides a fast, focused way for a couple to address issues in their relationship. This is a very helpful experience for most couples but it does require the couple to be able to discuss things with their partner fairly calmly and to work on things cooperatively. Some couples are too upset with each other to do that and so therapy is the only option for them. Of course, private therapy has the advantage of dealing with issues in a more focused way under guidance of the therapist. Many times couples opt for both.
We are pleased that we can now offer the workshop in Houston. Just a few years ago it was only available in Seattle but the Gottman Relationship Institute has trained a number of certified therapists throughout the world to offer the workshop in their communities. If anyone needs help to decide which is right for them, they should just give us a call.
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